[mICQ] suggestion: register project on launchpad.net

[Rico -mc- Gloeckner]

Hi,

On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 11:23:26AM +0200, Alexander Dahl wrote:
>              To whom belongs micq.org for now? Is that a private server of
> Rüdiger or is there a kind of sponsor?

maybe its time to make a short rundown to what happened in the past
years regarding micq to understand the situation as it is now.


mICQ originally has been ``Matts ICQ'' and been developed by someone
whose name was ``Matt''.

Matt was involved in a tragic accident which killed him -if my memory
serves me right- at the end of 2001.  

Since everything what micq was depended on him, the future of micq was
quite unclear.  Some days or weeks later i {forked, hijacked,
callitwhatyoulike} the project, put everything around micq on my private
server and made one or two changes on the sourcecode.  I also got some
improvements from other people which were slowly incorporated.  The
reason why i did that was that i used the program extensively and had
some -mc patches to micq, which were diffed against earlier versions,
anyway.  I simply didnt want ``mICQ'' to become unmaintained.

At some time, Ruediger appeared contributing a lot of patches and
buggering me since i wasnt the fastest ``head-developer'' - if you want
to say so.  So at some later time i gave him CVS rights so he could
commit.  From then on, i left everything to Ruediger, since i felt that
he did the job *way* better than i did before. I also passed the
``head'' to him, so he did everything coding-related

We now still have the situation that basically i host everything which
is related to mICQ and Ruediger does everything which is related to
coding the Project.  Theres not much left from mICQ as it was back then,
which probably is a good thing from various point of views ;-)

However, Ruediger is the one to ask when you want to have things done.
I'am open to all suggestions -hostingwise-, but i wouldnt touch the
stuff if Ruediger doesnt agree or when it is not absolutely necessary.

Little things regarding the mailinglist or the webserver or dns (btw, i
changed the NS setup finally, micq.org is now NS-wise connected via
three independent ASNs) or rsync or something can be arranged directly
with me ofcourse.

So, let me voice my personal opinion to the suggestions anyway.
1) I do reject launchpad.  Yes, its by the ubuntu people, but that doesnt
make it better.  I have the feeling that the intentions of the ubuntu
people are not transparent enough.  IMVHO&YMMV.
If there were a truly open (as in free speech) shared bugtracking tool
by an non-commercial entity (Ltd. is one) i might change my opinion,
though.
2) trac - i absolutely do like trac.  There are equivalent programs
written in ruby (RoR iirc) which are as good.  Basically i like the open
and simple concept.  Bugzilla - for my taste - is way too bloaty and
makes the situation worse.
3) svn - i do not mind changing to svn.  If Ruediger wants that, or bzr,
or arch, or whatever (i strongly like darcs - because of the concept), i
will do it.

4) something which i entered my mind now again.  This box once was an
openbsd, i later on re-installed it with debian.  Ruediger was a bit
sad, since he lost an openBSD testbox.  If someone can contribute
non-linux boxen, he might appreciate the test environments.


groet,
 -mc (micq.org sysadmin, so to say ;-)
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